Scouting Report: Tyler Robertson

May 20th, 2008 · 2 Comments

By Kiley McDaniel

As mentioned in the earlier Tyler Robertson first look, he is a bit of a polarizing figure as a prospect.

Now that I’ve given you plenty of time to peruse the video of his motion (that’ll be my excuse for the delay in posting the report), I’ll drop in with my thoughts on what I saw from the big lefty.

The outing wasn’t bad from a statistical perspective, but we all know better than to judge ability from a low-minors pitcher purely from their stats.

I saw some good things that bode well for projecting the lefty into the big leagues, and some thing that make me and others think he could fizzle in the minors.

So, this makes for a perfect opportunity for you, the reader, to take the information at your disposal to make your own call on what Robertson will become, with a Saber-Scouting first, a reader poll.

Come look at our shiny new toy, oh, and a scouting report too, after the jump…

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Tyler Robertson, LHP, Ft. Myers Miracle (Twins)

Pitch - Present/Future Grades

Fastball - 40/40

Slider - 50/55

Curveball - 45/50

Changeup -50/55

Command - 45/50

Physical Description - Physical, XL frame that’s more athletic than bulky. Not too much projection left, room for about 10 lbs, but more of a lean body type. Square shoulders, a little stiff as an athlete, average bulk throughout. Resembles Jon Garland.

Fastball - Dipped as low as 84, topped out at 88 and sat in the 86-87 area. The 84-85 pitch was more of a true cutter that was effective, but usually higher in the zone. The 86-88 fastball had cut, but moreso because Robertson tends to throw across his body. He showed some average sink at times, and mixed in some two seamers with good run. This is just a pitch to get to his off-speed stuff and he needs the movement and command to stay out of trouble with it—today his command/mechanics faltered at times and thus the fastball lost command and movement and got hammered at times.

Slider - Worked with this pitch at 74-76 mph and flashed above-average two-plane bite with late movement. More times than not, it was a lazier fringe-average cutter-type pitch with some depth that lacked the late bite and was either hit or out of the zone. If he cleans it up some, it probably still isn’t a swing-and-miss pitch, but a good weapon in conjunction with other pitches

Curveball - A 67-69 slow, overhand bender (good shot in the video of it) that has some tightness to it, but is average at best with the lack of bite. It’s more of a rolling pitch that he telegraphs somewhat with his higher arm angle. He also has a more awkward finish than usual when he throws it, hooking his arm to the body. For me, it’s no more than just a show-me pitch early in the count to change the eye-level that you hope the hitter isn’t expecting.

Changeup - This was his go-to off-speed pitch for the night that ranged from 76-81 mph and may have been two pitches, a splitter and circle change. He maintains his arm speed and angle to create some good deception and the pitch has good late depth with some fade. He used it pretty often and still got some weird swings. Robertson is able to spot this pitch well and bury it as a chase pitch late in the count.

Mechanics - There’s a lot of things I could say here, but judging from the outcry from the readers, you guys see that these are the type of mechanics that hinder an upside, turn scouts off, and apparently make a few of our readers hold their arms and cringe (their words, not mine). From a simplistic viewpoint, Robertson’s arm action is stiff and flexed, and is out in front of his body too much during the motion. Whether this impacts his command or lower velocity is out of the scope of my expertise, but I wouldn’t rule it out.

Notes - If the fastball is around 90 and the changeup and slider are both above-average while the command is working, then this is an effective big league starter. But that’s more than a few ifs, and you could say that about a number of guys in this league. From people I’ve talked to int he game, they don’t like his motion, have seen his velo down for some time (from the reported low 90s), and generally aren’t big fans.

From my one look, I’m not a fan either, but if you look at Robertson just as just another pitcher, if he can make the motion and command work for him, and develop his pitches as expected, he could be a solid back-end starter. As I said in an earlier article, there’s lots of guys in this league with that upside and similar stuff, so I tend not to bet on Robertson in general, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he makes a big league contribution.

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Adjusted Overall Future Potential: 50
Present Group: P, Future Group: D
Projected Role: Long/Middle Reliever, Spot Starter

MLB ETA: 2011
Overall Comparison: Ron Villone

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2 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Mike R. // May 20, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Hey Kiley:

    Any plans for Saberscouting on June 5th? I was thinking you guys could have some sort of live chat that day.

  • 2 kileymcd // May 21, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    We’ve been kicking around a number of ideas. You should be seeing some of that shortly. So there’s your vague cop-out.

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