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News & Notes: The Last Week, Part I

May 1st, 2008 · 11 Comments

By Kiley McDaniel

I’ve been all over the state the last week, and while that has meant less frequent posting, it also means tons of stuff is in the hopper for the next few days.

This is a very busy for scouts with crosschecker season in full effect for top draft prospects and the minor league season hitting it’s stride when “it’s still early in the season” is no longer an explanation for poor performance.

This article will cover the first batch of games I saw last week, starting with an awkward 10:30 AM start for a Clearwater-Sarasota game.

Also in this update: a Tampa-Fort Myers matchup, and reports on Yankees RHP Ivan Nova, Reds LHP Travis Wood, Reds 3B Juan Francisco, and Phillies RHP Edgar Garcia, all after the jump…

(Pictured Right: Yankees prospect RHP Ivan Nova)

Kicking off this update as mentioned in the lead-in is an awkward 10:30 AM start for last Wednesday’s Clearwater-Sarasota matchup. It was something that happened at most FSL stadiums that week, and the crowds for each game consisted of about 1,000 screaming kids for the first 5 innings (then back to school, I suppose), along with 12 confused seniors and 5 scouts staying for the full 9 innings, for obviously different reasons.

As for the game, it was a bit of a letdown as the top hitting prospects Drew Stubbs and Adrian Cardenas didn’t play, and you’d have to think the start time had a lot to do with it, as each lineup was littered with backups. As for the pitching matchup, it featured two intriguing prospects with Clearwater RHP Edgar Garcia and Sarasota LHP Travis Wood.

Edgar Garcia, RHP, Clearwater (Phillies)

Garcia worked from 87-89 and touched 91 with a flat four-seamer that lacked movement and he frequently threw up in the zone. His out-pitch was a slider that flashed above-average with late bite at 78-81. He didn’t really throw his changeup much, and it was below-average at best. Garcia’s command was below-average; he relied on fastball command that wavered and a slider that was inconsistent (lots of fringy sliders mixed in). He has a simple delivery, good leg drive, and great arm action from a high 3/4 arm angle, but lacks deception and has a maxed-out thick build. If he can be continue to progress, based on this look, this package should play in a middle relief role at the big league level.

Travis Wood, LHP, Sarasota (Reds)

Wood sat a 86 mph for the game with good sink on his fastball. His go-to pitch was a 72-73 mph changeup that flashed plus at was at least average every time he threw it, which was very often. His third pitch was a loopy curve at 70 with good depth that flashed average, but lacked bite, and was also thrown at a slightly higher arm angle at times and was easy to spot. Wood’s command was fringy as he had no choice but to throw the changeup very frequently, but it was good enough that FSL hitters still had trouble squaring it up. He has a maxed-out smallish frame, similar to Greg Maddux, and hides the ball well in the back of his delivery. His big league prospects, based on this look, are limited to a #5 starter if his command plays at higher levels, but more likely as a high-minors pitchability starter and extra big league arm.

Juan Francisco, 3B, Sarasota (Reds)

The one solid hitting prospect in this game was Reds 3B Juan Francisco. He had some buzz coming out of the Midwest League last year as a source of left-handed power with some holes, youth, and upside. He was all of those things today, as he’s got a complex swing with a lot of moving parts and marginal at best plate discipline. He was lunging and flailing at bad pitches and couldn’t square up good pitches.

He also has a thick build and lack of footspeed, particularly coming in on slow grounders that makes me think he can’t stick at third. The good news for Francisco is that he does have big power even when his front side leaks open, the flaws look fixable, this was just one game, and one at 10:30 AM to that point, but I wasn’t too impressed.

That night, I was able to catch a rare FSL doubleheader with a Tampa-Ft. Myers matchup, featuring righties Ivan Nova for Tampa (Yankees) and Alex Burnett for Ft. Myers (Twins).

Alex Burnett, RHP, Ft. Myers (Twins)

Burnett is a somewhat anonymous prospect for the Twins, but is a 20-year old starter in Hi-A (21 in July) and has some solid stuff. He worked at 88-90 and touched 91 in this outing and lacked movement, but commanded the fastball well. He had two versions of a curveball, with a harder one around 75 mph with late snap and flashed solid-average along with a slower show-me pitch at 68-72 with more depth and less bite meant to change the hitter’s eye level and give them something else to think about. His go-to offspeed pitch was a changeup that flashed above-average and is a present solid-average pitch with depth and fade that he could bury to get swings and misses.

He has a good idea of what he’s doing and solid command, but would fight his mechanics at times and lose the zone. I also saw him later this week in a side-work outing with similar stuff that fell off quickly after about 20 pitches, as expected. Similar to Wood, he has a maxed-out, but more solid build and if the command plays at higher levels and he continues to improve, could be a big league #5 starter, but again, is more likely to be a high-minors starter and spare arm.

Quick Aside About FSL Pitching Prospects

As you can imagine, a lot of guys in this league fit the Burnett/Wood/Garcia profile: fringy fastball, good out-pitch, average third pitch, fringy command, no fanfare. There’s probably two or three on each team and only a few make it to the big leagues with little separating them at this level. Some never improve and retire after 3 years in the FSL, but that’s why this league, as a last filter before AA, is important to look at results for a tangible view of which guy’s command and feel is working at this level, as they’re more likely to be that 1 in 100 guy to be a solid MLB starter. For example, Ian Kennedy’s stuff last year wasn’t that much better than this population of guys and he shot through the minors on his command.

Agents particularly scout this league a lot to figure out which under-the-radar guys will go from obscurity to possible MLB time (and more importantly for the agent, potential arbitration) based on their performances at this last level before AA. In AA, pretty much every decent player is represented, and in no time I’d bet the competition between agents increases and that filters its way down to the Hi-A level as well.

Ivan Nova, RHP, Tampa (Yankees)

Nova is a Yankee prospect from the Dominican Academy that has been getting a lot of buzz for his youth and stuff, but frustrates the easily-frustratable Yankee prospect watchers with results that don’t match the buzz. I mentioned in an earlier article’s comments section that Nova is a great guy with solid makeup, evident from just a short time talking to him while he charts pitches in the stands, and despite the language barrier and comical spanglish we spoke.

Ivan NovaAs for on the mound, Nova worked at 90-91 and touched 92 with a fastball that had above-average movement down and in to right-handed hitters. He would sometimes overthrow his curveball into more of a slider, but the pitch was beween 76-80 and flashed above-average with late snap, but lost bite as the game continued. His changeup also flashed above-average with great deception and late depth. So, you can see why there is buzz: the potential for three above-average pitches from a projectable 6′4 frame.

That being said, his fastball would drop to 87-90 late in the game and lost some life, his curveball wasn’t always the same pitch and lost bite, and he would hang his changeup at times. As with most young starters, he would fight his command and seemingly could use a better approach to attacking hitters, as they seemed to know what was coming at times. His mechanics are solid, his frame has room for more bulk, he’s a solid athlete with good makeup and arm action, and he has simple, repeatable motion from a classic high 3/4 arm angle.

Overall, Nova is an intriguing young arm with upside as a #3 starter if the command plays and everything develops. For the time being, he has solid-average stuff with some consistency issues but lots of upside. Developing more of a plan, some command, and a consistent out-pitch will be the things that decide Nova’s fate.

Other Notes

- Anthony Slama was pitcher that stood out of the cavalcade of boring relievers from these last two games. He has some funk in the delivery and a 3/4 to low 3/4 release point that helps give life to his live 89-92 mph fastball, sharp sweeping 76-78 mph slider, and deceptive 75-77 mph changeup. All have a chance to be above-average pitches, but he lost the zone at times and the velocity fell to 86-90 pretty quickly. That being said, scouts love to dream on what they see, and he showed us three 55 potential pitches with some deception; stamina can be learned.

He has a profile similar to Yankee prospect RHR David Robertson, who put up crazy numbers in the FSL last year and had funk as a slim righty reliever and three potentially above-average pitches that darted all over the place, but had fluctuating velocity and command problems.

- Wilson Ramos is a somewhat controversial young catching prospect for the Twins that some say is a future above-average starter and other say is just another young catcher we’ll have to wait-and-see on. From what I’ve seen in 4-5 games, he shows some tools with an above-average arm, solid defense, and pop to all fields, but has some trouble making contact due to some plate discipline problems, and doesn’t consistently show above-average defensive skills in game situations like he can. This to some degree is to be expected for a young catcher, but he’s more tooled-up prospect with a questionable bat than a fast-track sure thing at this point.

- I’ll be compiling these mini-scouting reports of FSL players from the News & Notes columns and sticking an OFP with them, then including each one in the FSL Prospects page (link at the top) to keep an ongoing list. We have also mentioned in the comments about getting the Draft Top 100 link active soon as well.

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Tags: 2008 MLB Draft · 2009 MLB Draft · News & Notes · Scouting Reports

11 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Scott // May 2, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    Kiley, greetings from north of the border. I’ve recently come across this site and am already a big fan. I apologize if you have covered some of these guys already, but have you had an opportunity to see Chris Valaika play in that Sarasota game? Also, have you had an opportunity to see Logan Morrison? If so, what were your impressions?

  • 2 erik // May 2, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    you all will have to let me know when/if you see the Palm Beach Cardinals play. We could do a little cross-blog-ization. I’d love to hear your 2 cents on RHP’s Jesse Todd, Tyler Herron, and OF’s Daryl Jones, Tyler Henley and Steve Hill.

  • 3 Doug Gray // May 2, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Very interesting note on Wood’s velocity. I had reports on him from earlier in the month and he was topping out around 92-93 and working 88-91. His changeup is definitely his go to pitch.

    I am with Scott though, what were your impressions on Valaika (went 1-3 with an RBI that day to go with a sac fly)? He has really caught fire lately.

    Also, you should really compress the Nova picture (its running over 600 KB). It makes scrolling the page a bit of a pain, at least for my computer (which isn’t exactly slow).

  • 4 kileymcd // May 2, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Doug,
    Which Nova picture is causing the problems? Went ahead and re-sized them both as smaller files.

    I had heard the same thing about Wood, in the draft-day reports that he was touching 93, that it’s what got him in round 2. Then I heard more 88-91 in his first full season, and either he continues to slip, or is just down some in the early going, we’ll see.

    Erik,
    I noted on my schedule that this week is the first week east coast FSL teams (St. Lucie, Palm Beach, Jupiter, Vero, Daytona, Brevard) start coming to the west coast. So I’ll be moving around with HS and college action winding down to get preliminary looks at each team as they come my way, some still won’t be near me for a while. Palm Beach is around for May 18-21 at Lakeland and June 6-8 at Tampa.

    Scott,
    Thanks for reading (that goes for everyone, really). Morrison is an east-coaster I haven’t seen yet (but have heard great things about), but obviously I was there for Valaika. He was somewhat non-descript, but most hitters are on the first look. He seemed solid mechanically (only Francisco got the video treatment for that game) and squared things up well, but took a few hacks on the wild side, which you might guess given his power/K stats thus far. I’ll get a better idea of him as I see a few more Sarasota games.

  • 5 Doug Gray // May 2, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Both actually. It looks like you just resized the originals, the Francisco picture is 59KB, while the other two pictures are over 600KB despite them being of similar size on the page. When pictures get sized down, the pixels all get bunched together and it causes scrolling issues.

    What it looks like you have going on with the Nova pictures is that the images are actually 1500×2000 and just resized those specific images rather than saving the images at a 300×500 size like you did with the Francisco image.

    Hopefully that made sense.

  • 6 kileymcd // May 2, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Doug,
    That’s exactly what happened. The Nova pictures were pictures that were 8 MP that I put on the page at full-size, and the Francisco was a screen grab from the lower-resolution video.

    And I edited the last comment to address the other questions. Thanks for stopping by, guys.

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    Thanks for the update.

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  • 10 mike // May 4, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    Here’s a great question who is the better pitcher? Jeremy Hellickson and Trevor Cahill?

  • 11 kileymcd // May 4, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    Mike,
    I should be seeing Hellickson soon when Vero comes to the west coast of the state, but might never see Cahill in person. Cahill’s taller but has similar stuff and both look to be having breakout campaigns. That is a good question, not sure I have an informed opinion only seeing Hellickson throw a few pitches in extended spring a few years back.

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